So why are you still using Blissey?

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So why are you still using Blissey?

Post by Alice on Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:38 am

Let's take a moment to compare the stats, and only the stats, of Blissey and Chansey.


This is Blissey.


This is Chansey.

Okay let's take a moment to spot the differences. For HP, ATK, DEF, and SPE; Blissey is up 5 in each category. This is practically negligible so let's just ignore this for the sake of moving on. The real changes are the +30 SpA and +30 SpD. Those are pretty significant. This makes Blissey even more bulky to specials and able to use the optional Flamethrower/Thunderbolt for getting over ghosts (where Seismic Toss would fail). But this article is called "Why are you still using Blissey?" so let's throw in the spice.

It's this item: Eviolite. This is a hold item that allows a not-fully-evolved Pokemon to gain a 1.5x bonus to DEF and SpD, making them bulk like mad. This is similar to an effective 1.5x HP bonus (though not exact). With Chansey able to sport Counter (or even Wish), this can prove to be a better set than for what you used your Blissey. Keep in mind that even with Blissey's +30 SpD, Eviolite far outstretches this bonus for Chansey's SpD, and additionally, gives more DEF. This is comparable to Chansey getting a stage 2 evolution.

So keep this in mind unless you planned to run a SpA Blissey for ruining Ghost-types. Also, why aren't you using Dusklops?
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Re: So why are you still using Blissey?

Post by ThatOneWeirdGuy on Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:35 pm

Well, I think this point has been made alot of times, but the main reason Blissey is still used more than Chansey especially in the Smogon OU metagame is due to the fact that it is simply better in sandstorm when it comes to wish passing. Wish passing Chansey in the sandstorm can only heal it self to about 37% due to the residual sand damage, at which point any special or physical poke that does abotu 30%ish can eventually wear chansey down.

However for the most part I agree with the statement that chansey is the better tank.

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Re: So why are you still using Blissey?

Post by Alice on Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:46 pm

The question was mostly rhetorical. For the sake of a title. In reply to Corgi's deleted post:
"To be fair, this is a stats analysis thread. But Smogon's meta doesn't really affect us. Or this concept in general."


Last edited by Alice on Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:55 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : because of reasons)
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Re: So why are you still using Blissey?

Post by Captaincorgi on Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:58 pm

Yep, I'm a douchebag :V
Welcome to the forums new guy, we ain't about smogon here, but discuss it if you like :V

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Re: So why are you still using Blissey?

Post by ThatOneWeirdGuy on Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:05 pm

Captaincorgi wrote:Yep, I'm a douchebag :V
we ain't about smogon here,
Yep i heard, but i always use smogon and the main pokemon servers as the reference to compare stuff, out of habit purely, since most people that battle competitively in both fanmade tiers and official tiers use somewhat of a hybrid of both.

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Re: So why are you still using Blissey?

Post by Captaincorgi on Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:11 pm

ThatOneWeirdGuy wrote:
Captaincorgi wrote:Yep, I'm a douchebag :V
we ain't about smogon here,
Yep i heard, but i always use smogon and the main pokemon servers as the reference to compare stuff, out of habit purely, since most people that battle competitively in both fanmade tiers and official tiers use somewhat of a hybrid of both.
It's cool bro, was just giving you a hard time like I do all smogon/rule people. Just be civil and you'll be welcome here forever :V

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Re: So why are you still using Blissey?

Post by Alice on Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:15 pm

I use Smogon as a reference as well. They make comparing stats much easier than Bulbapedia. I don't feel like scrolling halfway down a page. That being said, I ignore their made up tiers and their forums.
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Re: So why are you still using Blissey?

Post by RaikouTGC on Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:10 pm

I don't like Smogon because they promote Cookie Cutter Teams, and as soon as someone comes up with a tactic that decimates one of their teams they:
A) Ban the Pokémon
B) Ban the Move
C) Ban the Combo
D) All the above
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Re: So why are you still using Blissey?

Post by Alice on Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:10 am

Decimate means to remove one tenth. I think you mean devastate.

From a thread on /v/:
Half the Black/White matchups I see are
Ferrothorn/Vaporeon/Infernape/Politoed/Zapdos vs Ferrothorn/Vaporeon/Blaziken/Politoed/Zapdos

And the other half are Tyranitar/Excadrill/Gliscor shit

These are the only two viable builds amongst not 25 or 40 options, but literally hundreds of thousands of character options since you get to choose an entire party


It's pretty sad that they claim to enjoy competition and high level play while at the same time, banning anything that hurts their high level play.
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